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    Hey guys,

    I managed to get some more testing in this afternoon, so I figured I would go ahead and get it on camera. This video demonstrates how much travel the brake pedal has in a real world environment. A couple of people have commented that the brake pedal may have a bit too much travel. We hope this will alleviate some of those concerns.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GTFREAK View Post
    The amount of travel shown in the video is the maximum travel at that tension setting. Keep in mind, I was pressing on that brake pedal harder with my two hands than you would with your foot.
    I think you really underestimate how hard you actually push with your foot!

    It took everything I had to make it go down that far. The only reason you would get more travel than that is if you were to place the tension adjustment on the bottom settings. I'd suggest keeping it at the top for maximum stability.

    We tried going with a harder polyurethane bushing, but it was almost impossible to even get the pedal to move. I don't think people would like that very much. The bushings we're using at the moment actually perform VERY well. However, we have one more option that we're going to try. If that works out better, we'll go with that.

    We might actually do another video that concentrates on pedal travel. I'll see if i can do another "Pedal Testing" video that shows how much travel you have in "real world" applications. Fair enough?
    Yeah I can see different bushings would give you a different result and may also shorten travel a fair bit. A "real world" application video would very nice indeed, especially for people who are riding the fence
    on purchasing this for their rig, I'm sure there are still questions for them to be answered as well (just as with the mysterious mounting plate on the throttle pedal). Would be nice to see

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    wow that is weird I didn't see the new video until after I posted this reply, forget there was another page I guess!

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    That does look much better in practical use, especially suits the car driven I think. For openwheelers though it might be worth finding a stiffer bushing where you can supply
    two bushings (or three) to suit people's needs in terms of stiffness (soft/medium/hard). Some brake pedals felt like kicking a wall at times, but they sure as heck worked great for the virtual car they
    were driven with. Thanks for doing this video, again, looks really good! In one of bangers videos he is reviewing a Emery modified Tilton set which uses a combination of bushings to get different while
    while leaving the rest stock, there probably are the same possibilities for this brake pedal as well.

    Not trying to nag or anything, I just think people who are going to purchase these pedals want to be able to tweak them 100% to their liking, and so far I think that will be
    very much possible

    nice driving by the way

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    Although I think the secondary spring is a great feature, which I haven't seen on other pedals, in my opinionl it's more fit for road cars. For purpose built racecars or openwheelers,
    I don't know it's applicable, so an option for people to 'fix' the secondary spring would be nice as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wgeuze View Post
    edit3:
    Although I think the secondary spring is a great feature, which I haven't seen on other pedals, in my opinionl it's more fit for road cars. For purpose built racecars or openwheelers,
    I don't know it's applicable, so an option for people to 'fix' the secondary spring would be nice as well.
    I don't think we mentioned this in any of the videos, but there is a spacer at the end of the brake pedal rod (the rod that goes from the tie rod to the back plate - through the bushings and spring) that you can remove to eliminate that spring altogether. We'll be sure to show that in an upcoming video.

    Also, we're thinking of offering different bushings for different brake tensions. Also, don't forget, you can adjust the tension of the brake just like you can with the throttle

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    Hey guys,

    We've finally reached a milestone in our development process. We now have all three working pedal prototypes! In this video we showcase our new clutch pedal design. It has some interesting mechanics, and we hope you like the design. It has a good firm feel at the top of the stroke and it gets lighter as you push further down, which is what you want in a clutch pedal. Enjoy the video!



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    I really dig the secondary lever action going on there, seems really to work well already when you push it just with your hands

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    Quote Originally Posted by wgeuze View Post
    I really dig the secondary lever action going on there, seems really to work well already when you push it just with your hands
    Yes, it does work quite well. We're still tweaking things a bit. We're testing different positions to make sure it functions properly.

    The only real side effect of having this mechanism attached is that it's a little more difficult to make a pedal arm angle adjustment. If you adjust the angle so that the arm is at more of an angle, you'll lose some travel. However, this doesn't really hinder the operation of the clutch itself. You merely have to be careful as to what angle the pedal arm is adjusted. If you adjust it too far forward, the clutch mechanism won't work as intended. It simply won't reach the "tipping point" where you get that lighter feeling. However, we don't feel that this will be a deal breaker in any way. We're going to be making the holes into "slots" so that you can make minor adjustments when needed. You'll just have to be sure that you tighten the bolts down tight enough so they don't slip. We'll be producing some very highly detailed instructions that will be shipped with the pedals so you get a better understanding of how to adjust things, and what everything does.

    Before I forget, we're going to be announcing our pricing structure very soon

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    Just to give all of you an update on what's happening...

    We're going to be announcing something fairly big within the next few weeks. Until that time, we're going to concentrate on testing, testing, and more testing. And we'll put out a few videos that highlight that testing.

    I just want to say thank you to all of you that have participated in this thread, given us such great feedback, and have helped us to develop our upcoming pedal set. It hasn't been an easy road, and we've had our fair share of adversity along the way. That said, we've come quite a long way since October of 2013, and we're honored to have had the opportunity to show all of you what went into making these pedals.

    Sincerely,

    Chris Smith - Co-Founder -
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    I have followed your project from the beginning and I'm really happy for you and wish you a big succes! I don't know if I will make these pedals mine, because I have already the G27 pedals modded(SST brakes and another mod for the accelerator pedal) but who knows!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTClub_wajdi View Post
    I have followed your project from the beginning and I'm really happy for you and wish you a big success! I don't know if I will make these pedals mine, because I have already the G27 pedals modded(SST brakes and another mod for the accelerator pedal) but who knows!
    We hope that the price will help a lot of people make that same decision.

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    Today we're testing the pedals again. This is going to be an ongoing series. We have weeks and weeks of testing still to do, and we'll try to show you as much as we possibly can. We've even chosen a beta tester so that we can get some feedback from an outside source. We'll have more details about that later, but for now, just enjoy the testing


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    Hey guys, we had a couple of requests to do an actual race, so I managed to get some footage of a race that took place this afternoon. I'm not the fastest driver out there, but I know my way around Summit Point. My lap times aren't the greatest. Still, my PB is 125.770. That's not too terrible Enjoy the video!


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    Hey guys, this is yet another race with our new pedals. This time I managed to get second place. So far, I'd have to say that I'm doing quite well in this series. We'll see how well I do when I start getting into races with the guys with a higher irating. We'll see. Enjoy the video!


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    Hey guys, this is yet another testing video. This is the Mazda cup at LRP. This time, I happen to win the race, but not without some incidents. The two cars in front of me were having a real scrap, and I managed to get around one of them cleanly. The other car and I had an incident going into a turn and I really screwed up. I was trying to brake hard, and my car almost pushed him off the road. I apologized for it immediately afterwards, twice. However, there were some words that were said by some other drivers, and I decided to black that out as to not call out anyone.

    It was a low percentage move on my part, and I should have waited until the front straight to make a move. Lesson learned.

    Anyhow, I had some problems with rendering, so the video is a bit choppy. I apologize for that. Hopefully the next video doesn't have these issues. Enjoy


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    Hey guys,

    We've added a FAQ page to our website. This should help answer some questions that the public has been asking. You can view our FAQ page here: http://www.protosimtech.com/pst---faq-s.html

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    Hey guys, today we're testing out Assetto Corsa. This is the first time we've tested this sim with our pedals, and I have to say, I'm really starting to like this sim. I think the FFB still needs a bit of work, though. It feels a bit flat in the front end. It seems to me that rFactor 2 really nails front end feedback. You can really feel what the front suspension is doing. In Assetto Corsa, it just feels like there's no feedback coming from the front suspension at all.

    It could be my settings, or it could be the sim itself. All that said, Assetto Corsa is certainly a strong racing sim. Once it works out the multiplayer issues, I think this will be a great addition to the sim racing family.


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    Hey guys, today we get a chance to check out Project CARS. The Zakspeed Ford Capri is probably one of my all time favorite cars, and I wanted to test it out in this sim. It's an absolute blast to drive, but it's a little scary

    Nevertheless, I managed to do a few laps around "The Green Hell". It was a lot of fun. Enjoy!


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    Official Press Release 6-28-2014

    ProtoSimTech unveils the PT-1 Pedal set for serious sim racers!


    Today, ProtoSimTech has unveiled it's very first sim racing pedal set, nicknamed “PT-1”. ProtoSimTech's first sim racing product comes

    with loads of features and tons of adjustability that allows you to tailor the set to any specific driving style.


    To be clear, these pedals are not your average "set them down and start racing" pedals. These will require a significant time investment in order to
    obtain your perfect driving style. If you like slapping a set of pedals down and hitting the track, these pedals might not be for you. However, we hope that
    you give them a shot. We feel that you won't be disappointed!






    Features

    ● Powder Coated Finish
    ● Aluminum and Stainless Steel Construction
    ● 50KG Load Cell – Brake Pedal
    ● Industrial Quality Potentiometers (rated for millions of turns) – Throttle and Clutch Pedals
    ● Multiple Pedal Face Positions
    ● Adjustable Pedal Height
    ● Adjustable Spring Tension
    ● Adjustable Pedal Travel
    ● Adjustable Potentiometer Travel
    ● Adjustable Clutch “Feel”
    ● Can Be Inverted or Placed Right Side Up (with each pedal separately)
    ● Many More...


    For more features and technical information, visit our website at http://www.protosimtech.com

    Pricing Structure and Available Options

    These pedals will be available in two different formats with different prices for each format

    Two Pedal Set – Throttle and Brake - $319*
    Three Pedal Set – Throttle, Brake, and Clutch - $379*

    * + Shipping and Handling

    Each set of pedals will include all the necessary hardware needed to make adjustments to each pedal. An extra hard brake bushing

    will also be included for those that want a much harder brake feeling. ProtoSimTech will also be including instructional videos filled with information

    on how to make adjustments to your pedals, and how to properly care for them.

    Release Date

    This pedal set will be available for pre-order this fall. No official release date has been set. Be sure to check out www.protosimtech.com for information

    regarding an official release date. The official release date will be posted on the website when one has been determined.

    (We are shooting for October)

    Pre-Ordering

    Pre-Orders will be limited to a total of 20 complete pedal sets, and they will be first come, first serve. This limit is to help ensure that we are able to build

    all 20 complete sets within a reasonable time frame. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. Pre-orders will only be open for a short period

    of time (TBA). Once the orders have hit the 20 set mark, no more ordering will be possible.

    After all 20 pedal sets have been built, tested and then shipped, we will open up our ordering process for another batch of 20 pedal sets. Check out our

    website at www.protosimtech.com for information on why we are building them in batches of 20.

    Lead Times

    Lead times will be approximately 8-10 weeks. While this may seem like an unusually long period of time, we are a small operation, and we would like to

    ensure that each pedal set matches the quality that you expect out of a sim racing product. Over time, these lead times will grow shorter.



    Closing Statement

    ProtoSimTech was started in May of 2012. It originally began as a quest to build a set of pedals that could be tailored to any driving style. Along the way, it quickly

    became apparent that this venture was more than just a passing interest, and ProtoSimTech was born.

    Christopher Smith, Co-Founder of ProtoSimTech, has been hard at work designing, building, testing, and making critical changes to their first sim racing

    product, for the past two years. Recently, in October of 2013, Chris put together a series of videos documenting the entire process on YouTube. You can head over

    to ProtoSimTech's YouTube channel and check it out:

    http://www.youtube.com/user/ProtoSimTechnologies

    For more high res images, videos, and tons of extra information about these awesome pedals, head over to ProtoSimTech's website at:

    http://www.protosimtech.com



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    So these are all hand made by you and or your team in the U.S? If so that's a screaming deal on these pedals.
    I'm scared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamie Shorting View Post
    So these are all hand made by you and or your team in the U.S? If so that's a screaming deal on these pedals.
    At the moment, these are hand made. However, when we start to sell them, all of the aluminum pieces will be cut using a CNC machine. They will be assembled by hand, though.

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